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Summary

This conversation focuses on the reality of God’s love and how His love brings people into a true relationship with Him. The Family emphasizes that loving God is not just a mental concept or words spoken from the mouth, but an experience of receiving His love and allowing that love to be imparted into the heart. Through obedience, laying down one’s life, carrying the cross, and walking through difficult experiences, believers come to know the depth of God’s love in a way they could never produce on their own. The discussion also points to God’s love for the Jewish people as an example of His covenant purpose and His desire to create a people who love Him and receive His love in return.

Show Notes

God Created Man for Love
Dale opens by explaining that God created the human race to love Him. God is described as a jealous God who desires an exclusive love relationship with His people.

Receiving the Reality of God’s Love
Ken explains that God is looking for the reality of love, not just a love that people talk about. True love for God comes by first receiving His love.

Love as an Experience, Not Just a Concept
Ron points out that there is a difference between knowing about God’s love mentally and experiencing it personally. To love God the way He desires, believers need impartations and experiences from Him.

The Cross as the Proof of Love
Dale connects love with following Christ, taking up the cross, dying to self, and being resurrected by God. Laying down one’s life becomes evidence of love for Him.

God’s Love in Difficult Circumstances
Ken and Lois share how God’s love is revealed through hard places, suffering, caregiving, and transformation. These experiences reveal a love that could not be created by human effort.

Abraham’s Relationship of Love
Ken uses Abraham offering Isaac as an example of love and obedience. Ron notes that Abraham’s walk with God was not based on written scripture but on a relationship of love.

God’s Love for His People
Dale closes by pointing to the Jewish people as one of God’s great creations. Their relationship with God shows His love, purpose, and blessing in the earth.

Key Quotes

Scriptural References

Loving God with All the Heart

These scriptures reflect the great commandment mentioned in the conversation: God created His people to love Him fully, and He offers His love back to them.

Deuteronomy 6 (4–5)
Matthew 22 (37–38)
Mark 12 (29–30)
Luke 10 (27)

Receiving God’s Love

These passages show that true love begins with God loving us first. His love is poured into our hearts and enables us to love Him and others.

1 John 4 (7–19)
Romans 5 (5)
John 15 (9–13)

Taking Up the Cross

These scriptures connect love, discipleship, surrender, and laying down one’s life in following Christ.

Matthew 16 (24–25)
Luke 9 (23–24)
John 12 (24–26)
Galatians 2 (20)

God’s Love Revealed Through Trials

These verses speak to how God uses difficult experiences to teach, transform, and bring forth His life in His people.

Romans 8 (28–29)
James 1 (2–4)
2 Corinthians 4 (7–11)
Hebrews 12 (5–11)

Abraham’s Love and Obedience

These passages relate to Abraham offering Isaac and reveal a relationship of faith, obedience, and love toward God.

Genesis 22 (1–18)
Hebrews 11 (17–19)
James 2 (21–23)

God’s Covenant Love for Israel

These scriptures support the discussion of God’s love, purpose, and covenant relationship with the Jewish people.

Deuteronomy 7 (6–8)
Jeremiah 31 (35–37)
Romans 11 (1–2)
Romans 11 (28–29)

Takeaway

True love for God is not produced by human effort or spoken words alone. It is born from receiving His love, walking with Him through relationship, and allowing the cross, obedience, and life’s difficult experiences to reveal His love in us.

Transcript

A Relationship of Love

Ron:

Welcome to Life Behind the Veil. I'm Ron, your host, and today we're talking about the reality of God's love. The family shares how God created us for a love relationship with Him, not just a religious idea or mental concept, but a living experience of receiving His love and loving Him in return. In this conversation, we look at how the love of God is imparted to us, how the cross proves and deepens that love, and how difficult experiences can reveal something of God in us that we could never produce on our own.

We also touch on God's covenant love for the Jewish people and what we can learn by watching His relationship with them. Join us as we open our hearts to the Father's love and the relationship He is bringing us into through Christ

Dale:

God created us, human race, so we would love Him. He's a very jealous God. He specifically wanted to be loved. He feels that if I love you, you should love me back. If I'm your unique God, and I refuse to be one of many gods, that's a very intense love relationship, and that's what He wants, and that's what He expects from us.

Just imagine what we can get back. We can get a love that is just for us. When I hear the great commandment that you shall love the Lord your God with all of these things, these attributes, take into account He's offering the same back to you.

Ken:

God's looking for the reality of love, not just a love that we talk about, and the only way we get that is to receive His love.

He enables us to love with His love. I don't think there's any substitute for that because a lot of people say, "I love the Lord." In reality, they're just words. There's not a depth of love in their own hearts to really do that, and just saying it isn't enough.

Ron:

You're talking about a reality in an experience versus a mental concept or something you read in the Bible.

There's a difference. There's a huge difference. To receive God's love is an experience, and I don't think, in all reality, you cannot love God the way He wants you to love Him without those impartations or those experiences from Him.

Dale:

What we see is the example that His Son set for us.

From the very beginning, He said, "Come follow me." He got towards the end of His ministry, He says, "Take up your cross and follow me." If you take up your cross and you die, and He resurrects you, you have proven to Him that you love Him. You laid down your life. The same love that the Father put in His Son has now been imparted to me.

Ken:

When you serve the Lord in any capacity, and yet you hold in and love them with all your heart and speak to them, that's the love that we're talking about, but it takes the love of God. It's an experience that you have with God to carry the cross that He lays upon your life to bring you forth. Whether it's somebody that's dying you're taking care of or somebody with a long-term illness that you're taking care of, and you minister the love to them, that love comes back to you.

Lois:

When Fred was in the hospital, and it was near where he was dying, and I got off the elevator, and there was a woman sitting over on the chair, and her head was down. And I went over, and I sat down, and I said, "Hi, can I help you?" And she just said, "My son, he's down there in the room." She said, "We brought him to the hospital again."

She said, "He's totally paralyzed. All that there is a face." And all of a sudden, somebody gets off the elevator, and it's her husband. And he comes over, and so we're all standing there. And he said, "I had three sons. They were all athletes." And he said, "This one was surfing, and he had this accident and was paralyzed, totally."

He said, "I went to God, and I ,I screamed, and I said, 'What have you done to my son? What...'" And He, God said, "You weren't raising them to serve me, so I'm taking this one for myself." But this young man, every day he'd tie the young man to a straight chair, and as he worked at home, the young man was there. And they'd talk and read the word together.

This young man became something else. He became so Christ. When you walked into the room with him, it was just like you were in the room with the Lord. And everybody that came in, I'd t- I'd take them to his room, and they'd go, "Oh my God." What God made him was far more than he could have ever been.

Ken:

It's miracle level. Some of the things that we go through, all you can do is just shake your head and go, this love is so overwhelming. It encompasses everything about our lives. He's creating something in us we could never do by ourselves. He, His spirit, ministers life. I was thinking about Abraham just a few minutes ago when God said, "Abraham, I want you to take your son, which I've given you at the age of 100," when it was a miracle just to have him born, "I want you to take him, offer him up to me."

Now, you talk about love. Abraham loved God so much, he went to do exactly that, and that was the heart God loved. Because when God saw what, that he was going to do that, He said, "Don't do it. Don't do it." Oftentimes when we think we're in the hardest place we've ever been in our lives, it's because God allowed us to get there, because He's teaching us something, He's showing us something.

You look at your life and you say, "If I had not gone through that, I wouldn't know the love of God."

Ron:

Interesting talking about Abraham, that there were no scriptures. There were no, there was no Bible. This is a relationship. To me, that's the perfect atmosphere. It was a relationship that they had, a relationship of love.

I feel that's where the Lord's trying to bring humanity, is get them out of all these trappings and get them into a relationship of love with Him.

Dale:

God will go to any means He has to, to get us to understand how much he loves us. God is not beyond something like that. He loves us so much. In this podcast that we're talking about tonight, and we're bringing up the many creations of God in the earth, and the Jewish people are one of God's greatest creations.

We see that throughout the Old Testament into the New Testament, that God created a people to love him, and in return, He loves them. It's amazing as we, we see what's going on right now in the news and wonder, what is God doing? Whether you're a Christian or non-Christian, we recognize that God is doing something very special with these Jewish people.

It would behoove us to watch and to listen, and maybe be taught something that would be valuable for us in our relationship to the Lord. There's a lot being poured out in what God is doing through the Jewish people. Look at this, their success as a nation in agriculture, in all different kinds of things.

God is blessing them. Why? Because they love him. It's interesting to see what they're doing, especially if we're fortunate enough to travel to Israel and to witness it. It's different to hear a news broadcast and tell about what's happening as it is to stand there on a Sabbath evening in a synagogue and watch what they're doing.

We open our hearts to them. They're His people. We're his people. He's the father of all creation.

Ron:

Thank you for joining us today on Live Behind the Veil. The love God is looking for is not just something we talk about. It is something He works in us as we receive His love, walk with Him, and lay down our lives before Him. As the family shared, God is bringing us into a relationship of love with Himself, a love that goes beyond words, beyond religion, and beyond human effort.

May we each open our hearts to receive His love more deeply and allow that love to be revealed through our lives

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