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Summary:
God is moving by His Spirit without observation in
many areas. He reveals Himself to His family and all creation.
Show notes:
- Gift ministries, gifts of the Holy Spirit, so much was released
and so much without observation. - I have never heard of individual parts because He is always
swallowing them up in the body of Christ. - You can’t say, “Christ is here, Christ is there,” for Christ is in
our midst.
References:
Eph4:11-16
And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some,
evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 for the perfecting of the
saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of
Christ: 13 till we all attain unto the unity of the faith, and of the
knowledge of the Son of God, unto a full grown man, unto the measure
of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 that we may be no longer
children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men, in craftiness, after the wiles of error; 15 but
speaking truth in love may grow up in all things into him, who is the
head, even Christ; 16 from whom all the body fitly framed and knit
together ]through that which every joint supplieth, according to the
working in due measure of each several part, maketh the increase of the
body unto the building up of itself in love.
Luke 10:1-20
Christ sends out the seventy.
John3:30
He must increase, but I must decrease.
Quotes:
- “What did Christ do on the Cross? His resurrection released
all these fantastic gifts: gift ministries and gifts of the Holy
Spirit.” - “We must have a relationship with the Lord first then He uses
us to minister to others. This comes without observation, it is
not for our glorification, it is for Him.”
Take away:
- The words that our coming today are for the people to bring
them into God
Transcript
Dale
God is doing so much through so many people. He's moving and doing without observation. We don't see it. And what's happening is, in times past, we had names of ministries, Ephesians, 4:11, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, it laid out their ministry, Ministry of an apostle is one who was sent. I see a lot of people moving it what has been termed in Christianity, apostolic ministries. And that would make you think that those were men, maybe women who were sent. So in this day that we're living in now, I see there's a lot of people they're sent. But they don't carry with them, that label, this person's an apostle. Well, I think it's supposed to be that way. Because I see people moving prophets, prophesying speaking the Word of the Lord. I don't see anybody saying this is Prophet so and so. There are some of that going on on television, but I see 100. And they're not carrying that moniker. Right And I think it's because the family of what God's doing now and what He's doing in His kingdom now, is different. It's the same ministry, it may have a different name, or it may not have a name at all. Right. I think that's very exciting. Because it's not focusing on a man or woman. It's focusing on the ministry. It's focusing on what they're doing. That circles around; what did Christ do on the cross? His resurrection released all these fantastic gifts. Gift ministries, gifts of the Holy Spirit, so much was released, and it's coming without observation. What we're receiving is eyes to see and ears to hear. Right. It's so exciting to look and see what God is doing in the earth. And He's doing it without observation. If you're able to see it, is it without observation? Yes, there's not, there's not a guy, or a man or a woman going out there passing out a business card. I'm apostle, so and so I'm evangelist, so and so. What they're doing is, is they're doing the will of God., they're their focus is on what they're doing, not who they are.
Ron
Yeah. The Lord has been working on this probably forever, trying to get people that were a people that was moving in all these five-fold gift ministries and more, but not, but not in the limelight. They're not being identified like they used to be, but now they're melting into the family. So they're still who they are, but there's no label. Here's your apostle and prophet. Yes. Well, they I've never heard of them. Exactly. That's the point. You know, you haven't heard of them. Because God's swallowing them up in Himself. He's swallowing them up in the body of Christ. I was just talking about this today. There's a major transition I think we've been in for I don't know how long a couple years, maybe maybe longer than that. Where God's trying to bring His family or at least a portion of His family into for a better word of movement without leaders. Now, I do believe that you know, it will start in a remnant, a small group of people, God always starts in a little remnant. He tries to work it in, get it into somebody, and then it can spread. So I think He works in in a remnant of people and then it starts spreading out from there to the whole body of Christ, but they're all going to get it. Sooner or later. You're going to get swallowed up in your ministry. Quote, ministry is no more. You're just are, you're just who you are. There's no label, there's, you know, I have, I've got my ministry? Well, no, you just are you just part of the family, you know, and you may move it all that stuff, but nobody even cares, because you're just part of the family.
Ed
People are looking for all these miracles and things like that. There's miracles out there. He's trying to get away from that one person being like like Christ was when he came here, all those miracles that He did, were for a reason, right. For the people to believe. But even then, how many believed? Well, the words that are coming today are for the people to bring them into God. You may not see a miracle, like you saw before, because the person will probably be sitting there talking to you, ministering to you. And on the way out, he, he walks by a person in a wheelchair, puts his hand on it walks out, and then all of a sudden the person stands up. God gets the glory. Yeah, not man. And I think that's what God is looking for.
Debbie
You can't say Christ here. Christ is there. But Christ is in our midst. Without being able to say that so and so. The Lord gets the glory.
Ed
Yeah, I think also, one thing about this, the body of Christ coming together, it's the little miracles that happen to different people. And when you get together, and you're all talking about all this thing, that's where faith is built. There's little miracles happening on every day. It's just the little miracles that give people the faith. That's what they did in the early church, they met in their homes. They talked about Christ. You know, they are they get a letter from, from Paul, and boy, everybody's there, just listening to every word that comes off the page. And that builds the faith. And I think that's what God is looking for His people of faith now.
Dale
What always amazed me was the 70 that went out. They sent out 70, he had 12 disciples, and all of a sudden, here's these people, 70 of them. And the things that they did, their their report that they brought back was, seemed to be out of place in the scriptures. Here, He's working with these disciples, and all of a sudden, he chooses 70 people, and he sends them out, and they do all these fabulous things. And then we see, we see the baptism of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost 50 days after His crucifixion, and resurrection. And what happened? The gift of the Holy Spirit is now available to anybody. This, to me, is what God is doing now. There's not a ministry that rests on one man as an apostle or prophet. There are maybe hundreds ,thousands? Just imagine what He's doing today, what He's releasing on the earth, in His gifts,
Debbie
Knowledge of who He is.
Dale
There you go.
Debbie
And how He wants sons. But it is without observation, it's not for our glorification, it's for Him.
Ron
You know, we've talked about that forever, you know, that is all the glory goes to the Lord. But on a human level, it'll never go to the Lord. Because humans don't know how to do that. Human nature always gets in the way. This is a work of God, God is for a better word, getting rid of the human nature.
He is to be glorified in all things, and so was let's just step back a second back into what I would call another age at church age, I'd call it the Church Age. We're talking about the kingdom age, we're moving into the kingdom age, but there was a church age. And in the church age, you had apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers, you had all these gift ministries that were on the platform. They were out there to be seen. And it was fine. Because that's what the Lord was doing in that time. And those ministries were true ministries. That was just for that time and God's moving on. And as He moves on, like He always does, He does something brand new. And He is getting rid of all human flesh,or the human nature is a better way to say it. He's getting rid of all human nature. As He does that, even the gift ministries begin to disappear from the scene, they're still there. Who can you please give me some names of the 70? Because I don't think you're gonna find them. And that's the point. They moved in all these wonderful things that God that the Lord commissioned them to move into, but they're not lauded on even in the scriptures. They're just called the 70. So there you go. That's kind of a real good little glimpse of what we're moving into now. And we call the family